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THE MIGHGTY MOOG HAM
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 Posted January 20th, 2011 05:03 PM IP    
Anne Hathaway has been confirmed as Selina Kyle and Tom Hardy is confirmed as Bane for the Dark Knight Rises! Hell yes!
Robocop 2
This is Frank Miller through and through in spite of his protestations to the contrary. The only considerable difference I can see if he had directed it / had final cut / script left alone was that there would have been far more sassy prostitutes and strippers who bloody love their work. Not all that fun either.
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alan
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Posted January 20th, 2011 07:36 PM IP
Yes I think that's OK casting - she's a fine actress and will be good as both Selina Kyle and, assuming they get there, her alter ego. It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't have her suit up though. Tom Hardy has certainly got the chops for Bane too.
Haven't seen Robocop 2 since it came out but I quite enjoyed it then. Would probably look a bit dated now. Got it on video but i never play them anymore!
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Posted January 20th, 2011 10:58 PM IP
Hmmm I dunno how sensual this review is gonna be...
H3 a film about tthe 1981 Irish Hunger stirke, which I am sure we all remember lefd to the death of 10 IRA prisoners in the Maze prison. This movie actually quite old as it dates back to 2001, and was presumably made to pay tribute to the hunger strikers. It is actually hard to belive that we are approaching the 30th anniversary of their death. I remeber exactly the events as I was studying Irish literature at the time in Paris. I remember everyone in the world was watching these men who were lete die one after the other in front of our very eyes... and I wont even start to debate to what avail.
This, I think is a great movie because it is neither a portrayal of individual heroism à la Hollywood, nor a propaganda movie Ken Loach style. It is an account, a tale as seen from the prison, and in which Bobby Sands does not even play the lead role, and as much as it is about the events it is also about a modus operandi, a culture that these guys developped inside the prison to communicate,, and establish a strong community in the face of terrible oppressive conditions. The dilemna the main character Seamus is faced with is to chose the names of the hunger strikers replacements, as the first ones die. Strong movie.
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alan
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Posted January 21st, 2011 01:30 AM IP
I just had to look that up as i've never heard of it before! For a long time you couldn't see anything about the IRA on UK tv - there are some John Ford films that have either never been shown or, in the case of The Informer, shown once in my lifetime at about 8 in the morning! I've still never seen The Rising Of The Moon, nor is it available on DVD.
Sounds interesting though, thanks for mentioning it.
Just watched an excellent biopic of Eric & Ernie that the BBC showed over Xmas. Very well made, and superbly cast. The two leads were excellent in all three versions, particularly the older Eric who was perfect. They even sounded exactly like them. Much better than i expected.
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Posted January 21st, 2011 03:40 AM IP
So pleased you guys are excited about Tom Hardy in Batman, he's one of my ex-students and still a very good friend. Vote for him for Rising Star at the Baftas this year, it's the only award voted for by the public.
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zelilgirlI1ncenu
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Posted January 21st, 2011 09:34 AM IP
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I just had to look that up as i've never heard of it before! For a long time you couldn't see anything about the IRA on UK tv - there are some John Ford films that have either never been shown or, in the case of The Informer, shown once in my lifetime at about 8 in the morning! I've still never seen The Rising Of The Moon, nor is it available on DVD.
Sounds interesting though, thanks for mentioning it.
Just watched an excellent biopic of Eric & Ernie that the BBC showed over Xmas. Very well made, and superbly cast. The two leads were excellent in all three versions, particularly the older Eric who was perfect. They even sounded exactly like them. Much better than i expected.
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Yes I actually forgot about the ban on these kind of movies. Is Looks and Smiles still banned over there?
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Posted January 21st, 2011 02:14 PM IP
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So pleased you guys are excited about Tom Hardy in Batman, he's one of my ex-students and still a very good friend. Vote for him for Rising Star at the Baftas this year, it's the only award voted for by the public.
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I remember him from Star Trek Nemesis in fact which seems ages ago - i'm surprised he still counts as a Rising Star when he's had the lead in Bronson. But give him our congratulations and as Bat-fans we know he's a little on the skinny side for the part (Bane in the comics is HUGE) but he can act bigger!
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THE MIGHGTY MOOG HAM
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Posted January 21st, 2011 03:26 PM IP
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I remember him from Star Trek Nemesis in fact which seems ages ago - i'm surprised he still counts as a Rising Star when he's had the lead in Bronson. But give him our congratulations and as Bat-fans we know he's a little on the skinny side for the part (Bane in the comics is HUGE) but he can act bigger!
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He's quite large in Bronson to be fair!
What's most important is that Bane and Batman finally have a chance at a great story together and with Bale and Hardy going up against each other, Nolan, Goyer and Nolan writing the story, I think he has a damn good chance! I still can't believe that DC thought it made sense to set up a confrontation between Batman and Bane in Knightfall and NEVER pay it off! WHAT THE VERY FUCK!
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Posted January 21st, 2011 03:54 PM IP
Oh yes, Tom is a big fan of pumping up for a part if required. He had a great time with Nolan on Inception, they seem to have a really good relationship.
The Rising Star thing does seem mighty strange, he's the only one on the list in his 30s and has been making movies (and winning awards) for the best part of 10 years!
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THE MIGHGTY MOOG HAM
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Posted January 22nd, 2011 01:39 AM IP
He was great in Inception. You must be very proud of him!
Space Truckers
Had this not been directed by Stuart Gordon I wouldn't have bothered but I am glad I did. It is, with the exception of some lousy dialogue, a lot of fun. Some really nice looking environments, a restricted (for Gordon) though very effective use of Sci-Fi violence, a terrifically bad-taste knob gag and an appearance from Bennett from Commando. It also makes glorious B-Movie mulch to have Dennis Hopper be the lead trucker. Really good looking bad-guys too, and special effects in general. Worth a peak if you like Gordon and/or low-grade Sci-Fi fun.
Society
Brian Yuzna's first movie is a slow burning body horror affair. The pay-off is shocking, disturbing and tasteless. While there could have been a few moderate scares positioned along the way, the lack of understanding as to what exactly the evil shit that is happening actually is, means the ending knocks you over like a motherfunker. As is the case with nearly all of Yuzna and Gordon's material, the sex is weird, the violence is hardcore and the special effects are marvellous; with the exception of one embarrassing rubber mask. I will never again think of fisting in the same way.
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Posted January 22nd, 2011 05:16 PM IP
Beneath Still Waters
Very shit. The final film of Brian Yuzna's Spanish production company has absolutely atrocious CG water effects, a completely nonsensical plot and very, very bad actors. There is one nice moment where a zombified police officer saws off his own limbs. A truly ridiculous moment: Man gets his organs pushed through his chest by devil man, then has his face pulled off of his skull. All the time two characters in a car watch this happen with mild curiosity. After devil man starts eating man's innards, character in car gets out and reproaches this behaviour with a "HEY!" Classic.
Dreams in the Witch House
Now THIS cleansed my horror palette! Stuart Gordon did not lose it after all. This, an absolutely stunning adaptation of Dreams in the Witch House that he did for the Masters of Horror show, proves that he has aged better than Romero, Carpenter or any of his other horror contemporaries. With a fine budget and a really fine script, Ezra Godden (the lead in Dagon) proves that he is a perfect choice for any future Lovecraft story. Man-alive, this is some scary, atmospheric stuff. A near-perfect realisation of Lovecraft's darkest thoughts. Check it out.
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Posted January 23rd, 2011 03:43 AM IP
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Dreams in the Witch House
Now THIS cleansed my horror palette! Stuart Gordon did not lose it after all. This, an absolutely stunning adaptation of Dreams in the Witch House that he did for the Masters of Horror show, proves that he has aged better than Romero, Carpenter or any of his other horror contemporaries. With a fine budget and a really fine script, Ezra Godden (the lead in Dagon) proves that he is a perfect choice for any future Lovecraft story. Man-alive, this is some scary, atmospheric stuff. A near-perfect realisation of Lovecraft's darkest thoughts. Check it out.
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What is this available on? Is it a separate film or part of a series? I love Lovecraft and very little of his stuff gets done.
I watched Society when it came out. Great FX back then, don't remember much else about it though!
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THE MIGHGTY MOOG HAM
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Posted January 23rd, 2011 05:24 AM IP
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What is this available on? Is it a separate film or part of a series? I love Lovecraft and very little of his stuff gets done.
I watched Society when it came out. Great FX back then, don't remember much else about it though!
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The effects hold up very well, overall. Kind of proves I guess that the physical route is always going to have the advantage of visceral connect for the audience, in spite of its materials sometimes showing their age!
Dreams in the Witch House is on the first box-set of the Masters of Horror show. I highly recommend checking it out. Definitely the best non-Re-Animator adaptation I've seen. Really creepy. Very faithful.
And speaking of Masters of Horror:
Cigarette Burns
This is John Carpenter's first episode that he did for the show and I was hoping that I would see a similar rejuvenation in his work and what do you know, I did. Not quite as good as Dreams in the Witch House but to be fair, that was a Lovecraft story and this is an original tale. Reminiscent of In the Mouth of Madness and again filled with great production values, good acting talent and a really good script. The story is about the acquisition of a cursed film. It doesn't come across as seeming as if it wants to tap into the Ring/ J-Horror vibe, thankfully. Apart from Madness, it feels quite close to David Lynch, in particular The Lost Highway and parts of INLAND EMPIRE. What is it about this show that inspires former greats? Very good support for suggesting that you can do pretty much everything in a sixty minute film.
Return of the Living Dead
I wasn't sure about the more humorous element but it worked in an almost Rocky Horror fashion at its best, while also providing good monsters and good violence. The soundtrack was cool.
The Beyond
I gave this another watch, after having my first time through interrupted and I came to much the same conclusion. Although I greatly admire almost everything about the way in which this movie is put together; the amazingly graphic and beautiful death scenes; the wonderful locations, sets and cinematography; the story and bleak conclusion, I cannot quite get over how bloody off-putting the dubbed voices are. Definitely recommended, as there is a whole lot here, but the way in which the voices give the film a completely amateurish feel is nearly damning.
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Posted January 23rd, 2011 05:44 PM IP
All Italian/horror genre films of the 50's-80's era are dubbed, on purpose. Nothing amateurish about it whatsoever. That quality gives the films a particularly odd and unique feel. By dismissing the dubbing, you're shutting yourself off to some of the greatest horror films of all time. All Argento and Bava's classics are dubbed as well.
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THE MIGHGTY MOOG HAM
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Posted January 23rd, 2011 09:08 PM IP
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It *sounds* amateurish. Some of the dialogue sounded OK. Some of it sounded awful. Surely, it wasn't the intention of the director/actors to sound like they were in an episode of Garth Merenghi?
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I don't think it helped the film to be honest.
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By dismissing the dubbing, you're shutting yourself off to some of the greatest horror films of all time. All Argento and Bava's classics are dubbed as well.
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Well, I'm hardly shutting myself off from it, if I've watched it twice, am I?
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Posted January 23rd, 2011 09:52 PM IP
Thing is, though, all those type of Italian films sound the same, and they weren't exactly working in primitive conditions. It was a style, that may sound strange to us because we are not used to hearing dialogue recorded in that fashion.
If you watch more of those films, particularly Argento's Suspiria and Deep Red, Bava's Twitch Of The Death Nerve, Baron Blood, Lisa And The Devil, you may see that the dubbing, after you become accustomed to it, gives the films a disturbing, otherwordly feel.
I mean, the first time one hears a Dylan record, his style sounds a bit strange, as well. That is only natural, but we keep pressing on and discover the style and vision behind it.
Italian horror is similar, it takes a while to get used to, but the journey is well worth the effort.
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Posted January 23rd, 2011 10:02 PM IP
Ah to be fair I had no problem at all with City of the Living Dead. I just thought this one was a bit rickety. Might just be a case of certain actors being suited to the process and others not.
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Posted January 24th, 2011 06:04 AM IP
The Black Cat
Gordon's second Masters of Horror episode is a semi-autobiographical take on Edgar Allen Poe's The Black Cat. It all works very well, though I must admit as a friend of cats and of animals generally, the scenes of violence perpetrated against the furry fiend made me feel quite uncomfortable. Jeffrey Combs plays Poe, and is fantastic in his quivering, manic way that he has. Particularly good sounds and effects and the tension is built up purely from matters of escalating desperation.
Eater
When Masters of Horror was cancelled, the producers took the show to NBC and renamed it Fear Itself. It is a compromised version of that show and does not have the same level of violence or content. This episode was enjoyable though. Another Gordon one about a cannibal from the bayou. At the level of a good monster of the week X-Files. Clever-ish ending.
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Posted January 25th, 2011 03:28 AM IP
Hmm, i remember these being on tv and not watching for some reason. Do you recommend them as a set? I can still get them on Amazon.
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Posted January 25th, 2011 03:51 AM IP
Well, the three I have watched so far : Cigarette Burns by John Carpenter and the two Stuart Gordon ones, The Dreams in the Witch House and The Black Cat have been excellent. I am not sure how the quality is sustained but I'd definitely recommend a purchase if they are available at a reasonable price!
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Posted January 27th, 2011 05:47 PM IP
If I had ten lives I'd write a thesis about Bluebeard's Eight Wife , a 1938 Lubitsch comedy with Gary Cooper and Claudine Colbert. Behind rather awkward and rigid comedy kinds,m three lies 1 hours and 25 minutes of S & M barely masked dialogue. The images are just about as discreet. There is a spanking scene, then a tying up one ( Cooper gets put into a straightjacket on the orders of his wife), a relationship that is based on getting the other to submission, then a forced kiss by a complete dominatrix Colbert.
Rather interesting
http://www.flickr.com/photos/likeab...ika/3601370925/
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alan
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Posted January 28th, 2011 02:38 AM IP
Not a film i've ever seen or heard of. Where did you see it?
Amazon have a copy on Italian import! Think i'll try that and see!
Cheers
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Posted January 28th, 2011 03:28 AM IP
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If I had ten lives I'd write a thesis about Bluebeard's Eight Wife , a 1938 Lubitsch comedy with Gary Cooper and Claudine Colbert. Behind rather awkward and rigid comedy kinds,m three lies 1 hours and 25 minutes of S & M barely masked dialogue. The images are just about as discreet. There is a spanking scene, then a tying up one ( Cooper gets put into a straightjacket on the orders of his wife), a relationship that is based on getting the other to submission, then a forced kiss by a complete dominatrix Colbert.
Rather interesting
http://www.flickr.com/photos/likeab...ika/3601370925/
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Have you seen Design For Living? If not, I'd recommend that.
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Posted January 28th, 2011 05:21 AM IP
Edmond
I curse Brian Yuzna and his damned dirty production company! Stuart Gordon has not bloody lost it at all and it seems the entire lot of shoddy elements of Dagon seemed to be a result of the budget because this is another damn good film. Written by David Mamet and starring William H. Macy and a lot of other great people, including Julia Stiles and Joe Mantegna. Kind of like a much better written Falling Down. A bloody good dark comedy thriller drama thing.
I Love You To Death
A very surprisingly funny film by Lawrence Kasdan and apparently based on a true story, with Kevin Kline, Tracey Ullman and William Hurt. A husband is caught cheating on his wife, who along with her mother plot ways to kill him. Keanu Reeves and William Hurt are two stoners who are paid to kill Kevin Kline. They shoot him but he survives, so they only get half the money. William Hurt says "The next time we do this, we're getting paid in advance." Keanu Reeves responds "Don't you think if we keep shooting Joey, he might get suspicious?"
Funny Money
Really, really shit. If you want to establish that otherwise law abiding people would suddenly do a lot of illegal things for money, don't set your story in an extremely large and expensive house.
The January Man
Entertaining enough when watching it but as soon as it finishes you realise how little sense it makes. Harvey Keitel is completely wasted.
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Posted January 28th, 2011 09:33 AM IP
@ Alan, I saw the picture of the poster on one of the blogs from my blog roll, so naturally I seeked the movie out on the net, I think I got it from isohunt.
@ Ian, will seek out Design for Living, as Gary Cooper is just you know it's Gary Cooper... was there ever a more handsome man??? But I would like to know if you think that I am right in my analysis, because I was trying to find some documents to back it up and was unable to find any on the net (well I only looked for 10 minutes, but I thought that this coding business was so obvious that I would find lots to back me up, but off hand no, so I may have just be dreamiing it...). So if you know of any books about this double reading of these kinds of movies, pweeze, point me in the right diretion).
Meanwhile I started the famous 1971 restrospective.
Le Cercle Rouge, I had seen that when I was a kid, but I was able to appreciate it much more now, especially all the refs to Du Rififi chez les Hommes
WR or the mysteries of the organism, is just fantastic
Deep End, how stiffling is this movie...
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Posted January 28th, 2011 05:06 PM IP
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@ Ian, will seek out Design for Living, as Gary Cooper is just you know it's Gary Cooper... was there ever a more handsome man??? But I would like to know if you think that I am right in my analysis, because I was trying to find some documents to back it up and was unable to find any on the net (well I only looked for 10 minutes, but I thought that this coding business was so obvious that I would find lots to back me up, but off hand no, so I may have just be dreamiing it...). So if you know of any books about this double reading of these kinds of movies, pweeze, point me in the right diretion).
Meanwhile I started the famous 1971 restrospective.
Le Cercle Rouge, I had seen that when I was a kid, but I was able to appreciate it much more now, especially all the refs to Du Rififi chez les Hommes
WR or the mysteries of the organism, is just fantastic
Deep End, how stiffling is this movie...
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Yes, your reading of Bluebeard's Eighth Wife was absolutely on the button, and you need no book to confirm your reading. You should be WRITING the book.
Lubitsch had very, very wicked sensibilities that were best served pre-mid-1934, when the Production Code began to be strictly enforced. That is why I recommended Design to you, if you find Wife symbolic, Design is direct. The film couldn't even be reissues later in the 30's.
Are you into pre-Code stuff at all? I'm big into those films.
Love all those 1971 picks. Have you seen Makavejev's Sweet Movie? Every time I see that, it rises higher on my list of favourite films.
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Posted January 28th, 2011 05:46 PM IP
Phew, I am relieved, as I thought that maybe it was my twisted mind. Getting hold of Design as we speak, and no never heard of Sweet movie but I am going to check this out too.
As far as the Code goes, Ian I knew nothing about any of it, because so if there is a genre of "pre" and "post" because I am not very cultured, and find it difficult to hang on to knowledge, but I like to learn... so if there are movies that I should know about, my eyes, and ears are open as always.
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Posted January 28th, 2011 07:44 PM IP
I have ordered the Bluebeard from an Italian dealer on Amazon. I'll let you know what i think.
Also found a copy of two episodes from Masters Of Horror - yes, including Dreams In The Witch House and Cigarette Burns - for £2 in FOPP!
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Posted January 28th, 2011 10:57 PM IP
Thats amazing value!
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