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 Posted March 7th, 2008 10:43 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Please post all questions and discussion about Dale's horse, Buttermilk, here.
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 Posted March 8th, 2008 12:55 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Just think, Buttermilk was on his way to the slaughter house when the farmer saved him from it.

He was a great horse for Dale. He was a quarter horse gelding. Buttermilk was pretty fast , 'cause on some of the sets, Roy would ask Dale slow him down.

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 Posted March 14th, 2008 11:20 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Well ..... some like Leo Pando put forth that this is what Roy requested at times when filming the TV series. Only one big mistake with this deduction that Buttermilk was faster than Trigger, in take off. It is true Buttermilk was a Quarter Horse, and they are noted for fast take off speed, but Trigger was Quarter horse (and Thoroughbred). The main incorrect deduction is that people FORGET the AGE of the two horses. In 1951 when TV series started, Buttermilk was 10 years old. Trigger was 17 years old.
Now you x 3 for human age. So Buttermilk was 30 years old in 1951; Trigger was 51 years old in 1951.
You take a 30 year old Olympic strinter against a 51 year old Olympic sprinter (way passed his dynamic youth) - here is no contest. It's age folks, simply age. A 51 year old just ain't going to start and sprint as fast as a 30 year no matter how much training and conditioning they both do ... age does that.

So it's a mis-noma to compare Trigger with Buttermilk in the sprint race.

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 Posted March 14th, 2008 11:38 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Just think, Buttermilk was on his way to the slaughter house when the farmer saved him from it.

He was a great horse for Dale. He was a quarter horse gelding. Buttermilk was pretty fast , 'cause on some of the sets, Roy would ask Dale slow him down.


Oh forgot to say. Geldings are no where near as fast as a Stallion - you take away their "manliness" and dynamic hormes, and they just ain't the same. You just about NEVER see geldings running in the Kentucky Derby etc. - they are colts and fillies.

I purposely got a Mare golden palomino (she was 5 years old) so she was all in all together, and yes she does run like the wind. Roping horses are mainly geldings (simply because Stallions are very seldom like THE Trigger, they are hard to handle and only have one thing on their mind ... you guest it). They do not need terrific speed per se, only enough to get near enough for the cowboy to throw his lasso, they are not in any big race, as soon as the calf has broken the line, out of the shoot, the cowboy and his horse can break their line, it's only a matter of feet. A Gelding is quite fast enough to be a roping horse.

They have some roping horses (the 20 year old son and buddies use in local roping events) at the Ranch where I keep my horse, same age or younger than mine. They are Geldings. My horse (Quarter horse Mare) would leave them in the dust if in a 100 yard race.

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 Posted March 19th, 2008 06:29 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Another interesting fact is that Corky Randall (the son of Glenn Randall (Roy's trainer for 24 years or so) has said that Buttermilk was owned by his Dad until the end of the TV series in 1957. Then Glenn GAVE the horse to Dale.

Buttermilk was named this name by Dale, and lived to be 31 years old. that is 93 in human years. So from a not so good start (having been abused in the beginning of his life) he lived a good LONG life with Glenn Randall and with Dale. FEW HORSES GET TO CELEBRATE THEIR 30th BIRTHDAY, BUT dear old Buttermilk did.

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 Posted March 31st, 2008 09:24 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
There have been other books written about Trigger, or at least have sections in them about the three Triggers. Surely you've heard this before, "Do not believe, everything you read!!"

Seems like there could be some controversy in what has been written of the three Triggers in books.



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 Posted April 3rd, 2008 01:12 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Yes, there does seem to be a some controversy in what has been written of the "Triggers". Who are we suppose to believe?

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 Posted April 14th, 2008 08:50 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post


I always like the color of Buttermilk.

I too, have seen counterdicting writtings about Trigger. Makes you wonder -- Who's Right ?


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 Posted April 22nd, 2008 08:26 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Does anyone know what Buttermilk's first movie was?

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 Posted May 2nd, 2008 02:04 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I may have to do some research on that one! Trailhand, you've got my curiosity up.
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 Posted May 10th, 2008 05:20 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Trailhand:
Would ya tell us what movie Buttermilk's first movie was? Haven't felt like researchin' it.

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 Posted July 29th, 2008 05:31 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post

Buttermilks first movie may have been "SPOILERS OF THE PLAINS" with Penny Edwards as the rider. Not sure about this.



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 Posted February 23rd, 2010 10:40 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
It's sad Buttermilk. will have to be auctioned off in July like Trigger and Trigger Jr.
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 Posted June 2nd, 2011 10:06 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
It was sad that Buttermilk, along with the others; Trigger, Trigger Jr and Bullet. couldn't have stayed together as a unit. May they all be taken care of with the respect and in the manner they should be, wherever they are!!.
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