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blkfx4
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 05:12 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post

Thanks Dave and the USDR crew for a great course, again!!

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sixpac
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 05:16 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I thought the course was great. It beat me up pretty bad and there was really no sit and relax areas, made for an exhausting race. Jess and I both approve!

My race went good but I had to stop to help a lite's kid get off the course. I was the first to come up on him and he was in the middle of the course. I was there for a bit and didn't get going again till the mini's and women were already on me. pushed really hard after I got going again and got way in over my head not too far after the score shoot and bounced into a bush on an uphill. with the help of a couple race 2 guys I got pointed in the right direction and finished strong but I am sure I will be at the back of the pack. Jessica liked the course and did really good for her 2nd race. She feels she could have pushed harder but she finished and had fun so she is happy.

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sixpac
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 05:23 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
The kids did great. In kids 1 Cody took the hole shot with Caitlyn right there in 4th. Cody led the first loop and was quickly wrapped up by Craig. I cannot believe the speed that these kids are putting up. Caitlyn ran 4th for the first 2 loops and I am sure that this will be her best finish in Kids 1 so far. She is getting a lot faster and stepping up her game. Boys better watch out! Cody settled in to take 2nd behind Craig who ran away with it. In Kids 2 Cody ran his 85 for the first time and we are all happy with his performance. I am not sure where he finished as the leaders were into the lappers quick and I lost track of it all but once again it was Craig Jacobson out front running away with it.

What a great weekend and thanks again to USDR for a great event.

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gjslick
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 06:24 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I thought the course was a really fun flowing course with a great mix of everything.Im now in the S2 exp. class race#1, but ive been in race 2 for the last two years and yeah it,s more beat-up then race 1 but the course itself was great.I didnt think there was to many whoops at all but and was the type of course that kept you on your toes.

I had a fun race except for running out of steam at the end of the first lap.I got a decent start like third or fourth overall then was able to move into second and started working my way up to my teammate John Sides.I was really getting a good flow then got tired and tried to just keep a fast enough pace untill I got my second wind which never came.I started making some mistakes so I just rode fast enough to get second place.Im happy with my finish and bigtime congratulations to John Sides on another win,great ride.After this weekend I have decided to quit some things and start doing some other things so don't relax yet Sides!!..haha
Thank you AS RACING for a flawless running 250r and all the support!..Big congrats to all my other teammates on some great races/finishes..

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onearmbandit
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 07:10 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Fun course...but today i feel like somebody tried to beat me to death. Need to hit the gym so I can stand up more because sitting to much on a course like that leads to angry organs...My kidneys are POed
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sixpac
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 07:13 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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onearmbandit wrote:
Fun course...but today i feel like somebody tried to beat me to death. Need to hit the gym so I can stand up more because sitting to much on a course like that leads to angry organs...My kidneys are POed


Yea, I feel the same way. Besides the fact that I don't ride very well, my conditioning is my biggest issue. I tired sitting down more because I was flat exhausted but that just made my back mad at me. It is still yelling!

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Bartel
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 07:17 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
there is no corse that can be created that everyone likes. there are too many riders with differnt riding strengths and weaknesses. I dont see why everyone always gets butt hurt when someone says they did not like the track.

the raced kicked my butt. but made me realize where i am weak and what i need to work on. see you at round 3

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RudeboyRalph
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 07:48 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
THanks Dave and crew for a great weekend.This course was my second favorite of my USDR career, good mix of everything,really cant complain about anything,thanks gentlemen.P.S. watching the kids race was a blast.
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Patrick304x
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 09:42 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
The course had a good layout but it was just hammered. I found some good lines here and there but unfortunately it seemed most of them were only a few hundred feet long and tied back into the course, it was really hard to ride off trail and get around lappers, i think maybe because of the overgrowth out there right now. I enjoyed everything from check 1 to home check but from home to check 1 was pretty darn choppy, i guess just from the starts..
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Harper27
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 09:48 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I thought the course was good. This was my first race in Race 2, so of course, it was gunna be rougher than Round 1 Race 1 for me. I thought everything was well marked as well. I did see some lines off to the side that were questionable, so I was a lil reluctant to try them out. But I'm sure with more race experience under my belt, I will get a better feel for line selection. I would like to give a BIG THANKS to Kudla for NOT taking me out on lap 4. He passed me like I was painted on a tree! I did however, do my best to keep him in sight for a bit and got a firsthand view of the "Raceline". Following Kudla, or maybe Kudla's dust, for sure helped me to get in a smoother line for my final lap.
Dave, dont let these guys get to ya- Youre doing a great job! Youre always going to hear more of the Negative comments over the Positive ones. Thats just the way people are. Anywho, I want to thank AS Racing for once again, turning a blind eye to the fact that I ride a Yami, and allowing me to pit and party (Jomy) with them, AWESOME SUPPORT. Thanks to Mendy and Uncle Steve aka: "Speed Bump" for letting me crash in his rig...again.
(Edited by Harper27)

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walkmnn
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 10:34 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I thought the course was challenging. I was in race 1 line 5. Yes it was choppy but my AS Racing suspension was put to the test and passed, Paul at AS Racing really knows how to set up the suspension for the desert. I almost went over the bars after the bomb but was able to hold on and ride to second place finish after one small mistake. I rode the course on Sunday and yes it was beat to hell. The whoops were really bad and all the 90 degree turns had berms built up. NOT the same course I rode. Like trac Dave said 1000 riders will do that.

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DuBato 31S
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 Posted April 3rd, 2011 11:04 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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trac dave wrote:
then see what the trails look like after the race.
you can mark the most awesome, twisty, virgin, single track trial when you lay out the course......and it will turn into a strait, choppy 10 foot wide trail with 6 different lines by the 3rd lap of race 2. that is why the beginners and minis run in race #1, they get the easier course before the experts chop it out.
I think that 90% of the complaints are the same for both Rnd 1 & 2 It's the start straights that are beat up and they are to begin with because we use them over and over and so does everyone else, but its the same for all of us we all still ride the same course. I had a hard time out there but it was not 14 miles of whoops at all it did not even seem whooped out to me, its the square edges I hate and I found a good one at both round 1 & 2. Thanks for another great event, see you at rnd #3.

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Jays2nd
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 04:22 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
All I can say is That was as much fun as I have ever had at any race. Perfect course. Whoops seperate riders and that makes my riding time pay off. I loved the extra checks and I think that where the course get cut after the check should be noted by the checkers if they remember numbers. Also I did not see or hear a life flight so that means that USDR did a great job and also maybe that Jesus Loves us!

Thanks Again for a wonderful race!

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 Posted April 4th, 2011 09:46 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
we actually HAVE to use existing start areas... per BLM Rules. Thats why they're so beat... But it also keeps the speeds down if they're full of whoops so when people do crash they're going 40 instead of 80!
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michael allen
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 10:23 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
just out of curiosity, why does USDR not use some less beaten trails? racing the NHHA and Prospectors enduro in the same area it seemed like there were alot more fun, less beat up trails utilized.
   
trac dave
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 10:48 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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michael allen wrote:
just out of curiosity, why does USDR not use some less beaten trails? racing the NHHA and Prospectors enduro in the same area it seemed like there were alot more fun, less beat up trails utilized.

enduros can use completely different trails because a rider will not cut the course. in an enduro you must ride the EXACT trail or it will throw off your mileage and ruin your race. ALSO there is very little passing in an enduro...you are racing the clock, not the other racers...there are also only 5 riders on a minute mostly riding single file.

in a hare and hound race everyone only rides the paticular trail once....there is no lapping of other riders and you do not know where the course is going so there is no cutting. in a multi lap race the rider will learn the course and look for different lines on every lap. passing is also a huge deal in multi lap events, passing lappers makes the trails wder and wider.

BUT HERE IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE IN TRAIL SELECTION. WE CANNOT USE MILES OF TECHNICAL SINGLE TRACK AND WE CANNOT RISK A BOTTLE NECK IN A MULTI LAP RACE....WE HAD ONE ONCE AND IT ALMOST RUINED THE ENTIRE EVENT.

remember, in a hare and hound if you are an expert, you are one of the first 20 or 30 guys to ride on the course, and you only have to do it once. you actually don't know what the same trail looks like for the last beginner....and you don't care if there is a bottle neck that holds up 50 novices and beginners because you are long gone and it won't effect you.....but what if you were held up for 20 minutes in a bottle neck at one of our races??????you would be pissed!

believe me, i know each and every trail in red mountain. we test ride every one, some are cool, but we have to end up with a course that EVERYONE can do, and enjoy.

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Harper27
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 10:57 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Well put and clearly explained.

"BUT HERE IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE IN TRAIL SELECTION. WE CANNOT USE MILES OF TECHNICAL SINGLE TRACK AND WE CANNOT RISK A BOTTLE NECK IN A MULTI LAP RACE....WE HAD ONE ONCE AND IT ALMOST RUINED THE ENTIRE EVENT."

Hmmmm- Robster???? LOL!


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bambam
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 11:34 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
personally i liked the fact that i got to race a usdr race that didnt contain 5 miles of fire roads! you can go fast in the chop but you gotta get your suspension done by as racing first...hehe anyway i thought the course was great. however i did notice that the course marking was not up to par with past events. some sharp turns had only one arrow AT the turn it self. and not to sound like a griping dad, but my daughter jaden 77z in the kids race was getting aggressively yellow flagged every time she came through the scoring chute, and it was not just me that commented to the fact that the two leaders were haulin butt through the chute and not getting the flag thrown in front of them..either way she had fun and finished fifth. not bad for a girl that has only been riding a year and just came off a crf 70f 3 months ago. thanks Dave for putting together a fun day of racing.
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trac dave
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 11:54 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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bambam wrote:
personally i liked the fact that i got to race a usdr race that didnt contain 5 miles of fire roads! you can go fast in the chop but you gotta get your suspension done by as racing first...hehe anyway i thought the course was great. however i did notice that the course marking was not up to par with past events. some sharp turns had only one arrow AT the turn it self. and not to sound like a griping dad, but my daughter jaden 77z in the kids race was getting aggressively yellow flagged every time she came through the scoring chute, and it was not just me that commented to the fact that the two leaders were haulin butt through the chute and not getting the flag thrown in front of them..either way she had fun and finished fifth. not bad for a girl that has only been riding a year and just came off a crf 70f 3 months ago. thanks Dave for putting together a fun day of racing.

this was the first race where i turned the course arrowing duties over to the new team of guys. i think LOU, GUY, AND MIKE did a great job of completing the course without me looking over their shoulder.
they will learn from any small mistakes made and get better everytime.....i know it was very stressfull for them with all of the responsibility!

she was going a little fast, but i got a little more aggressive with the flag because she was not looking at me or the flag and appeared not to acknowledge it.....i just wanted to make sure she was aware that i was giving her the yellow flag.

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michael allen
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 12:55 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
i understand, and along with others love racing USDR, but would like to see a little diversity from time to time.
   
ajetmech
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 01:27 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I sure did love that course it was a good combo. I am still amazed at how fast Nick and Ryan travel through that stuff. As for me I lined up on the far right next to the stakes. I thought for sure it would be smooth sailing up and around the corner. I was not sure if Dave saw me over there or not so when the flag dropped I hesitated a little because I didnít want to hit him so I once again was in the dust. Since my bike is not one of those fancy Troy built brush powers I did my best to stay with the pack and out of the dust so I could see. Then just after Check A and just before the road crossing I clipped the rocks and got bucked straight up into air. Both hands and feet were off the bike and I was well on my way to imitating flyinrayn. He was my first thought and then about ten hail Maryís and a few OH S#@%s the front tire hit another rock bouncing off a rock bars meeting me in chest I almost kissed my front fender got one foot back on the peg the other on a rock. How I stayed on I donít know all I know is there was no skill involved in that on. I also popped my right thumb out of the socket and could not get it pop back in until the race was over. I am just glad that is an old injury or else I would have hurt a lot more than it did. I almost made a few folk puke when I did that by the sound it made and them watching me do it. I then let the pack go so I could just look for the best lines for the next lap to try to make up the time. Then on an uphill there was a guy sitting sideways and just as I went by he just laid on the throttle and I got nothing but rock and dirt in my face. Not his fault he was just trying to get unstuck and plus its racing. I was able to catch some people in the back country not sure if they were in my class or not so Iíll just have to wait until the results to see how I did. Every time I would see some dust I would get all pumped up thinking I got someone else only to reach the corner and figure out that it was just was the wind blowing the dirt but hey thatís what kept me on the throttle. All I know is that I wish all of the races would be like this. If I could change anything it would be to have a little more Tech section. To me this course mixed it up nice and it was alot of fun. I just need to get faster so I can get a fith lap in. All I know is that I cant stand Dirt Diggers.
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L84DZRT
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 02:44 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Just want to say THANKS DAVE, Lou and crew. I thought you guys did a great job on the course layout. On Sunday the wife and I took the rhino around the course, our freinds took their razor and we had a blast. We stopped along the way and picked up missed ribbons, signs...etc., met Kevin (sweep) and his family and turned them over to him. Thanks again for all the effort it takes to put on these events!
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Bill
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 02:52 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
My race results weren`t what I wished for.I crashed hard right after the first road crossing.Got up and back on the quad thinking I`d feel better when I caught my breath.well that didn`t happen so I turned around and tried to find my way back to the start area.went to the docs today and was told no serious injuries just bruised and seperated ribs.Kinda fiqured that but just wanted to be sure since Saturday night after the race I was coughing up a little blood.Didn`t see much of the course but I still had a good time even tho it was very short lived.
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intmid8tr3
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 05:08 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
1st 100 feet were pretty good..the rest is kinda blurry
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 07:29 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
You guys need to give Dave and USDR a break. Yea course was chopped up end race 2 but its the desert... if you don't like it go ride trails for fun. They do everything they can set up a good course for all levels of riders. This course separted experienced riders, everyone can go fast down a road round 2 showed who was fit and knew how to ride the most.
   
yzguy
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 10:13 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I agree. my conditioning sucks! I did like the course. I need more cardio.
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Bill
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The only complaint I have is it would have been nice to hear some concern from Dave for the injured riders. I`ve had many racers check on me but not one call,Email or post from Dave.
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yzguy
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Bill wrote:
The only complaint I have is it would have been nice to hear some concern from Dave for the injured riders. I`ve had many racers check on me but not one call,Email or post from Dave.


Seriously? C'mon, you're a grown man.

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EWC
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 Posted April 4th, 2011 11:49 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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Bill wrote:
The only complaint I have is it would have been nice to hear some concern from Dave for the injured riders. I`ve had many racers check on me but not one call,Email or post from Dave.



He may have just not gotten to you yet. Probably still contacting everyone who had a flat apologizing for all the rocks.

Seriously, it's always nice to hear that injured riders are doing well but you can't expect Dave to micro manage every detail of the series.




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yzguy wrote:


Seriously? C'mon, you're a grown man.

Cool I`ll remember that next time you crash and get hurt.I wasn`t asking for flowers or anything just a hey how are you would have been nice.

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