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March 28th, 2008 07:17 PM
hot_locket Hello, I used to post on the ol' Smile Shop. I now come to the Record Room with a request: would a nice person be able to upload in a .rar file or something all of the songs Brian wrote for Jan and Dean?

I'm going through the Lambert book, and would like to follow along in the analyzation.
March 28th, 2008 07:25 PM
Beckner Didn't Todd Gold keep notes for you, Bri?
March 28th, 2008 07:30 PM
Summ-a-Briz a well crafted google search will probably solve it:
"Jan and Dean Take Brian Surfing" rapidshare
March 31st, 2008 07:12 PM
hot_locket Not having any luck... soulseek's not helping, either.
March 31st, 2008 10:20 PM
Mark A. Moore Well, Brian never wrote anything "for" Jan & Dean . . . but Brian and Jan did co-write nine songs together that were recorded by Jan & Dean.

You can stretch that number to eleven if you count "Sidewalk' Surfin'" and the various incarnations of "Gonna Hustle You" . . . (the later "New Girl In School" simply featured a key change, lyric changes, a better arrangement by Jan, and an altered writing credit).

Actually, "Sidewalk Surfin'" was the only melody/harmony composition that Jan used ready-made from Brian. Roger Christian changed the lyrics for that one, and Jan slightly altered the arrangement. But that one was Brian all the way, in terms of overall origin. Thus, "Sidewalk Surfin''" is the only Jan & Dean song to feature Brian's name first in the songwriting credits.

All of the other songs in question were collaborations between Jan & Brian . . . although "Surf City" and "Gonna Hustle You" did originate from Brian, in unfinished format.

M.
March 31st, 2008 11:06 PM
Mitchell! How about Dead Man's Curve?
March 31st, 2008 11:22 PM
aeijtzsche I love how on "in the studio with Jan and Dean" from that all the hits thing, you can hear Brian talking when the talkback is open right at the beginning.

Mark, in your delightful DAG article, the AFM contract for DMC and the 5 other songs or whatever has Brian on it...what did do that warranted getting paid? Or was it free money? That was a crazy long session, too. Whew.
April 1st, 2008 12:43 AM
Mark A. Moore
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aeijtzsche wrote:
I love how on "in the studio with Jan and Dean" from that all the hits thing, you can hear Brian talking when the talkback is open right at the beginning.

Mark, in your delightful DAG article, the AFM contract for DMC and the 5 other songs or whatever has Brian on it...what did do that warranted getting paid? Or was it free money? That was a crazy long session, too. Whew.


Josh,

Great post . . .

This is one of our big questions . . . Why is Brian listed on that AFM date . . . 11-14-63?

Brian did co-write two of the songs tracked on that date . . . "Dead Man's Curve" and "Surf Route 101."

Anecdotal (and aural) evidence also tells us Brian sang backup on the '63 album version of DMC . . . later re-worked into a Top-10 single in early '64 . . . but that would have nothing to do with the '63 AFM date (instrumental only).

So . . . was Brian just officially "present" on the '63 AFM date because he was a close collaborator with Jan, and Jan "put him on the tab"? . . . (and remember, by this time Jan was long since J&D's company-signed producer for Screen Gems) . . . Or did Brian actually play keyboards on any of the songs on that session . . . which also included "Hot Stocker" and "Drag Strip Girl"?

Interesting to ponder. . .

But I have the ultimate track of Jan and Brian working together in the studio in 1964 . . . from Jan's own personal collection. It settles any doubt as to their closeness.

The question is . . . can we get said track released as a bonus cut on our tribute album?

Stuff to chew on . . .

M.

April 1st, 2008 12:47 AM
Mark A. Moore
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Mitchell! wrote:
How about Dead Man's Curve?


With DMC . . . the title came from Roger Christian, and Brian and Artie worked on the melody.

Jan contributed to the melody, wrote the arrangement, and came up with the idea for the car crash . . . instead of the race ending in a tie.

Pretty ironic.

M.
April 1st, 2008 01:24 AM
aeijtzsche
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But I have the ultimate track of Jan and Brian working together in the studio in 1964 . . . from Jan's own personal collection. It settles any doubt as to their closeness.

The question is . . . can we get said track released as a bonus cut on our tribute album?


Oh my!

Another mystery. Lots of those for those of us who care about weird recording session minutia, huh? If heaven exists, I hope all mysteries are solved.

Would have been a fun session to be at, in any case.