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April 6th, 2008 10:36 PM
audiodrome I've read a little bit about this guitar, but the info is kind of scarce. Was his particular guitar a one-off model or just a very limited production model? Does anyone know whatever ever became of this actual guitar? I wonder if he still owns it. I know that he still has his "Black Beauty" Les Paul. To me, that Gretsch 12-string is iconic as any Eric Clapton or Stevie Ray Vaughn guitar.


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April 7th, 2008 08:38 AM
wind chime He had to pawn it in '72 for some quick cash...no I really don't know! Wish I did...
April 7th, 2008 09:41 AM
whyzacre Stolen from Red Shodes guitar repair shop in 1967. What's the glory is stealing it? You can never resell it to make money or admit that you have it.
April 7th, 2008 10:50 AM
audiodrome
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whyzacre wrote:
Stolen from Red Shodes guitar repair shop in 1967. What's the glory is stealing it? You can never resell it to make money or admit that you have it.

So it's possible that the last appearance of that guitar was at the August filming at Fred Niles Film Studios in Chicago (with the Rainbow Room).
April 7th, 2008 11:32 AM
whyzacre You've got me curious... now I'll have to do my homework to figure out when it was last seen. Hmm.

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audiodrome wrote:
I know that he still has his "Black Beauty" Les Paul.

Nope. He doesn't own this either. Nez gave it to his eldest son Christian a few years ago. This past November I get a phone call from my friend that works at the Hollywood Guitar Center. Seems as though Christian dumped it off with a letter of authenticity. Cool thing... I was the first person it was offered to thanks to my pal that knew what is was! Unfortunately, I didn't have a spare $25,000 to blow on a guitar.
Got some extra loot I can borrow, Paul? ;)

I think the only two guitars that he still has that he owned during the Monkees era are the acoustic Gibson & the white Gibby SG with the gold hardware- Circle Sky segment in Head.
April 7th, 2008 11:37 AM
IanWagner
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whyzacre wrote:
I think the only two guitars that he still has that he owned during the Monkees era are the acoustic Gibson & the white Gibby SG with the gold hardware- Circle Sky segment in Head.


When I think Nez, that SG is the guitar I picture him with.
April 7th, 2008 11:38 AM
Jeff Mason
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IanWagner wrote:


When I think Nez, that SG is the guitar I picture him with.


Wearing a white suit no doubt.

He just doesn't look like "Nez" today without the lambchops though..
April 7th, 2008 11:40 AM
IanWagner
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Wearing a white suit no doubt.


Lookin' cooler than Townshend.
April 7th, 2008 11:44 AM
whyzacre
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IanWagner wrote:
When I think Nez, that SG is the guitar I picture him with.

YEAH, totally! I told, my pal that if that one ever finds it's way to the used instrument gallery, to let me know. I'll sell off a kidney or an eyeball or something I've got 2 of.

Love the WC avatar, man! Whenever a movie of his was on TV my dad & I would watch and howl with laughter!
April 7th, 2008 12:13 PM
IanWagner
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whyzacre wrote:

YEAH, totally! I told, my pal that if that one ever finds it's way to the used instrument gallery, to let me know. I'll sell off a kidney or an eyeball or something I've got 2 of.

Love the WC avatar, man! Whenever a movie of his was on TV my dad & I would watch and howl with laughter!


WC is the original punker, man. I love when he kicks Baby LeRoy in the ass in that one flick!
April 7th, 2008 08:11 PM
Dude ll Doo Todd Rundgren stole it:)
April 7th, 2008 08:13 PM
hope chest as a guy who plays nothing but gretsch guitars, nez's 12-string is a holy grail. total factory one-off for him to play on camera, though there was a line of gretsch monkees model guitars. peter tork's basses are pretty awesome as well.
April 7th, 2008 09:50 PM
whyzacre
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hope chest wrote:
though there was a line of gretsch monkees model guitars


Mine. :)
One of the earlier Monkee models, late '66. Then in 1967, in total Gretsch fashion, they started to swap out features for the worse- good metal knobs for plastic knobs, painted on f-holes, plastic tuners, etc. I've had mine since '89. Purrrty!

April 8th, 2008 10:52 AM
audiodrome
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IanWagner wrote:


When I think Nez, that SG is the guitar I picture him with.

Yes, that's another iconic image. Whoever has that Gretsch today must keep it hidden somewhere. One glimpse of that in public and it would be all over. His was a one-of-a-kind. None of the stock 6076 guitars had gold parts or the back pad.
April 8th, 2008 11:25 AM
whyzacre
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audiodrome wrote:
Whoever has that Gretsch today must keep it hidden somewhere. One glimpse of that in public and it would be all over. His was a one-of-a-kind. None of the stock 6076 guitars had gold parts or the back pad.

There was supposedly a second 12 String Gretsch that was given to Buck Owens, if I recall correctly.
April 8th, 2008 08:04 PM
hope chest
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whyzacre wrote:


Mine. :)
One of the earlier Monkee models, late '66. Then in 1967, in total Gretsch fashion, they started to swap out features for the worse- good metal knobs for plastic knobs, painted on f-holes, plastic tuners, etc. I've had mine since '89. Purrrty!




oh sweet jesus, how gorgeous!!!!!!!
April 8th, 2008 08:08 PM
Jeff Mason I have the image of Kevin acting like Christopher Guest among his guitars. "No, don't touch that. Don't even breathe on that one."
April 9th, 2008 12:20 AM
Lester Byrd "I'm just looking."
"Don't look at it!"
April 9th, 2008 12:53 AM
whyzacre Thanks Ray!
No gents, I play my gear. My right handed pal insisted he play the Monkee Gretsch for our band gigs including Vegas & Spain. He did. It looked great in his hands and sounded the same. He dealt in vintage gear and wanted to buy it for himself, I told him no way, mansville. Those Supertron pick-ups are truly amazing, tho.

Here's our first single if anyone cares: Gotta Give It Time (unreleased Monkee tune by Jeff Barry & Joey Levine, from A Little Bit Me/She Hangs Out, Davy Jones sessions), B/W an original- You're Just (a Waste of My Time) total punk action.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/060mzs
April 9th, 2008 09:37 AM
audiodrome I don't have a Monkees Gretsch, but I do have these beauties. You gotta love that "Great Gretsch Sound!"

April 9th, 2008 12:06 PM
hope chest
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audiodrome wrote:
I don't have a Monkees Gretsch, but I do have these beauties. You gotta love that "Great Gretsch Sound!"




class, class, fucking CLASS! nice rug, too! used to have a 6120 meself, and STUPIDLY passed up buying a tennesean for $600 once. :angry:

i'll see if i can line up the guitars in the studio and post a pic in a bit.
April 9th, 2008 12:11 PM
hope chest
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whyzacre wrote:

Here's our first single if anyone cares: Gotta Give It Time (unreleased Monkee tune by Jeff Barry & Joey Levine, from A Little Bit Me/She Hangs Out, Davy Jones sessions), B/W an original- You're Just (a Waste of My Time) total punk action.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/060mzs


this is FANTASTIC!!! oh man, is this great. i cannae wait to play this for my guitarist. i know many people who will dig this wholeheartedly.

for about a year hope chest was doubling up on practises and developing a set of monkees tunes to eventually play some fun cover sets. it kills me that we never played out or recorded.
April 9th, 2008 12:14 PM
IanWagner
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whyzacre wrote:
Thanks Ray!
No gents, I play my gear. My right handed pal insisted he play the Monkee Gretsch for our band gigs including Vegas & Spain. He did. It looked great in his hands and sounded the same. He dealt in vintage gear and wanted to buy it for himself, I told him no way, mansville. Those Supertron pick-ups are truly amazing, tho.

Here's our first single if anyone cares: Gotta Give It Time (unreleased Monkee tune by Jeff Barry & Joey Levine, from A Little Bit Me/She Hangs Out, Davy Jones sessions), B/W an original- You're Just (a Waste of My Time) total punk action.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/060mzs



Wow.
April 9th, 2008 06:34 PM
audiodrome
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whyzacre wrote:
Thanks Ray!
No gents, I play my gear. My right handed pal insisted he play the Monkee Gretsch for our band gigs including Vegas & Spain. He did. It looked great in his hands and sounded the same. He dealt in vintage gear and wanted to buy it for himself, I told him no way, mansville. Those Supertron pick-ups are truly amazing, tho.

Here's our first single if anyone cares: Gotta Give It Time (unreleased Monkee tune by Jeff Barry & Joey Levine, from A Little Bit Me/She Hangs Out, Davy Jones sessions), B/W an original- You're Just (a Waste of My Time) total punk action.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/060mzs


Holy shit, is that great! You guys can really give the Chocolate Watchband a run for their money!
April 10th, 2008 12:04 AM
whyzacre Thanks gents. Hope you dig the tunage/glad you like the toonage! The Monkee Gretsch is playing the clean lead line in Gotta Give It Time thru a British Selmer amp, and all fuzzed out in Waste Of My Time. It was a blast recording them! Our full album is as equally retarded. I'll take the Watchband quote as a compliment... LOVE those guys and the men behind them.

You've got some great geetars, Paul! Gretsch guitars are so handsome. Being a lefty is a bit of a curse, I'm afraid. I had the chance to buy a lefty double anniversary Gretsch about 10 years ago for $1200. What a steal, but I didn't have the bux. Kills me to think of what it's worth, now.

Does anyone know why Gretsch did some models with the f-holes painted on versus actual holes? The painted ones look so cheap.

Show us yours, Ray!
April 10th, 2008 08:50 AM
audiodrome
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whyzacre wrote:
Thanks gents. Hope you dig the tunage/glad you like the toonage!

You're welcome! You guys have a great sound - the recording really fits the music. Please post the whole album when you get a chance.

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whyzacre wrote:
Does anyone know why Gretsch did some models with the f-holes painted on versus actual holes? The painted ones look so cheap.

This was actually done for a legitimate purpose, not for cost reasons. If I remember the story correctly, Chet Atkins wanted a way to control the feedback he would sometimes get from his Country Gentlemen, and the Electrotone Hollowbody was born. While I agree that the painted f-holes look a little cheap, the "Electrotone" sound is incredible. The controlled feedback I can get with my Tennessean is amazing!
April 10th, 2008 11:07 AM
whyzacre I was gonna guess feedback, but it seemed too obvious. Thanks for that bit o'trivia.

Ride Your Pony upped us a few months ago. Here's our album if the link still works- http://rapidshare.com/files/93316505/freddy.zip
April 10th, 2008 12:57 PM
audiodrome
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whyzacre wrote:
I was gonna guess feedback, but it seemed too obvious. Thanks for that bit o'trivia.

Ride Your Pony upped us a few months ago. Here's our album if the link still works- http://rapidshare.com/files/93316505/freddy.zip


Thanks! I'm psyched to check it out.

More on Mike's guitar: I just found out that they reissued this guitar (sort of) as a limited edition. It's not exactly a 6076; it's more like a natural finish 12-string Country Gentleman, but it looks pretty close, and what a beauty it is!


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April 10th, 2008 02:54 PM
hope chest
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audiodrome wrote:

While I agree that the painted f-holes look a little cheap, the "Electrotone" sound is incredible. The controlled feedback I can get with my Tennessean is amazing!


nothing compares to the feedback control on the tennessean. NOTHING. i have dreams about it. sexy dreams.

i'll have to upload separate pics, unfortunately. here's my freshly restrung acoustic/electric:



here's my corner of the studio with my sparkletop:



here's my black hollowbody:



and for the hell of it, here's one end of the studio:

April 11th, 2008 08:56 AM
audiodrome Hope Chest,

What guitar is that in the middle picture (the sparkletop)? It looks like a Jet with f-holes!
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