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delsgirl
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 Posted March 18th, 2009 04:45 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I was wondering if you know of a photo editing program that will let me do black and white with a selected object original color? I've seen it done and think it's so neat, I'd like to do that for Maleah's 3yr picture. A free download program would be ideal since I don't do a lot of scrapping or photo stuff on the computer, but anything you can recommend would be great. Thanks!
Christy



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antrosari
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 Posted March 18th, 2009 05:45 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
picasa does a pretty good job in my mind, and it's free. Google it.
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delsgirl
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 Posted March 18th, 2009 08:05 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I have picasa but I didn't know it had that option. Shows how green I am. I'll have to check it out. Thanks
Christy



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delsgirl
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 Posted March 29th, 2009 05:00 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Sorry to bug you Rose, or anyone who uses Picasa, but I cannot figure out how to do this with that program? There's the bl & w focal, but it starts at the edges and as you bring it in the center stays color but what I want to do is take a picture and just select one or two things to be colored and the rest black and white. Like is there an erase option after you change to bl & w? Or do you do it with the tint option? And if so, how? I found some stuff online but I thought I'd give picasa one more try before I download something else. Any other ideas are welcome!!

Has anyone used Color Select Studio?

Christy



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ewaldro
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 Posted March 30th, 2009 08:32 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
If you want a fairly cheap program, the versions of Photoshop Elements that aren't current are really inexpensive. You can get Elements 5 for $32 now. However, you really need a book to figure it out if you've never worked with layers before and you're not a computer savvy person.
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twofus
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 Posted March 30th, 2009 09:28 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
In Picasa, the program will only do one area and it will stay in a circle shape. If your computer came w/ Microsoft Picture It, you can select an area of any shape in there.

   
damar
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 Posted March 30th, 2009 12:01 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Quote:
twofus wrote:
If your computer came w/ Microsoft Picture It, you can select an area of any shape in there.

Tell me more! A step by step explaination would be wonderful !

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Momof2
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 Posted March 30th, 2009 01:51 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
I have picture it and never knew that i could use it for that. I'll have to check it out. I usually use picasa but since it's a circle, it's limited how you can use it.
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delsgirl
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 Posted April 1st, 2009 12:28 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Wow I did it!! Delvin dug out this freebie program that came with our camcorder (PhotoImpression 4) and it worked! It has a cropping option that you just trace around the object then copy it as a new layer, then I just turned the background layer to bl & w. I wish I could post it but for some reason I can't upload it. I don't know what i'm doing wrong, I resized it and I even tried uploading another picture that I did before and nothing goes. Whatever... at least I know I can do it now!!
Christy



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delsgirl
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 Posted April 1st, 2009 01:30 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post


(a little fuzzy, now to fix that. ...)

Christy



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twofus
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 Posted April 2nd, 2009 01:29 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Well, I hadn't done this for so long I kind of needed to relearn. If anyone knows shortcuts or tips for making this easier, feel free to share.

Here goes:
Of course you start by opening the picture you wish to work w/ in Picture It

Step 1. Click on magic wand
Step 2. Click on Selection options. In the picture below it is not active because I have not yet clicked on the magic wand. After clicking on the magic wand, the text will change from gray to blue (on mine). If at any time during this process you need to change selection options and the box is gray again, click on the magic wand and that should make this active again.
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Step 3. In the selection box (1. on the picture below) chose a tolerance of about 20. For the selection mode, I chose the left button first, than changed to the plus sign which allowed me to add to my selection.

(Explanation on tolerance: That dictates how closely the wand will pick up other colors to include in the selection. If you have a very small tolerance, it will only select tiny bits at a time. If the tolerance is too high, it will pick up way too much of the picture.)

Step 4. (2. in picture below) Just click away. Here's my picture in progress.
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If you happen to click on something and happen to get a LOT more than what you want, click Ctrl+z which is the shortcut for undo. If you click on a little more of the area than what you want (see chin area below) don't worry about it for now.
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Step 5. Still clicking. I found that if I zoomed way in so that the picture looks terrible, it was easier to see where I was clicking AND I could increase the tolerance w/o catching a lot of areas I didn't mean to select. After I got this picture, I zoomed in even further. (Use the scroll thing-a-ma-gig on your mouse: roll up to zoom in; roll down to zoom out.)

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Step 6. Click, click, click some more. Your finger should be really in shape after this.

Step 7.
Once you've gotten everything selected, go to the selection box again. Change from the plus to the minus sign. Click any areas that are selected (chin) that shouldn't be.
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Step 8.
Once you've gotten everything selected that you want selected and everything not selected that you don't want selected--Go to the selection box and choose "Inverse." This will change the area of the picture that is selected from the area you want to stay in color to the area you want to change to black and white. Notice in the picture below that the dotted line goes around everything except the sweater.
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Step 9.
Click black and white.
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Step 10. (Optional)
I didn't like how very bright the sweater was in contrast w/ black and white, so I inverted the selection again to be just around the sweater and lowered the saturation a little.


If I missed something or the directions are unclear, I can try to answer your questions. Go have fun!


   
lovinglife
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 Posted April 10th, 2009 05:30 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Great directions Christy! Picture It! is so much more user friendly that photoshop elements, in my opinion! But there are things that I like about PE better. Keep in mind if you're buying an older version of PE that it may not work with your operating system. I had PE 6.0 and there were things I could not do in Vista. But if you have XP an older version would work great and of course they are much cheaper!
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Momof2
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 Posted April 10th, 2009 01:10 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Hmmm, I have Picture it! but it must be a different version. I don't think mine has all that. I'll have to look again.
Amber
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ewaldro
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 Posted April 15th, 2009 04:34 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Christy, are you happy with Elements or have you moved on by now? We are having to upgrade because of the RAW editor in 5 not being compatible with the next camera we're getting. I sort of wanted to go straight to the real deal, but I figured we're not using it at the level that we would need one of the CS versions yet.

P.S. I've just been watching tutorials and looking at all the Coffee Shop free actions you can run in Elements 7, and I am pumped! The main reason I wished for Photoshop was all the cool actions, but apparently running actions is much easier in 7 plus there are a lot more out there that are compatible with 7.
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ervro
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 Posted April 16th, 2009 10:41 AM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Thanks for explaining that! Now I think that I could do that in my Creative Memories program as well!
~rosalyn~
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antrosari
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 Posted April 16th, 2009 01:50 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Rosalyn, if you figure that out, could you let us know if it can be done in CM? I'm not familiar enough with this kind of thing to figure it out myself.
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ervro
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 Posted April 16th, 2009 11:11 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
hmmm...it is doable, but not very easily, AT ALL!! I've spent over an hour perfecting two pictures, and I"m not totally happy with the results. I think I'll play with this some more later, see if I can get it "down to a science"!

Basically what you have to do is have two identical photos on your page. You change the one to sepia or black & white, and leave the other in color. Then you start "erasing" stuff from the color one that you don't want, to try to get that picture down to only what you DO want in color. When you have eliminated everything else, you move the color item over on top of the black & white photo, and VOILA!

I'm too tired to post my results tonight, but I can show you how they turned out if you're interested...I actually tried two different methods. For the one picture I used the "shape cutters" and cut everything away, and for the other one I used the wand cutter and tried to select what I didn't want, then erased that.

Like I mentioned earlier...neither one is just real easy to get it to look right...

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twofus
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 Posted April 19th, 2009 07:44 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
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ewaldro wrote:
Christy, are you happy with Elements or have you moved on by now? We are having to upgrade because of the RAW editor in 5 not being compatible with the next camera we're getting. I sort of wanted to go straight to the real deal, but I figured we're not using it at the level that we would need one of the CS versions yet.


Still using Elements.


   
ervro
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 Posted April 21st, 2009 12:39 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Rose, don't know if you're still waiting on this or not, but here are my results with the CM software:



If you look closely, you will see that it didn't turn out 'perfect'. Basically this software is for scrapbooking, and not photo editing (other than basic things, I think...). But it will do in a pinch!


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antrosari
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 Posted April 21st, 2009 08:38 PM   IP           Reply with quote Edit Post Delete post
Beautiful! Rosalyn!! Must've been a lot of clicking.....
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